SPEAKER_01 0:13

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Elaine Brown's podcast, Still a Revolutionary. I am your moderator, Africa Wusada. So, since our last episode, we talked about a lot of things. And right now, in the news, there's a lot going on about these data and AI centers. And I wonder what your thoughts are on such matters, Elaine.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Well, as you can imagine, Africa, I have a lot of thoughts. And uh I want to start with uh back in the day when we had the Black Panther Party 10-point platform and program, in 1972, we revised that platform and program. One was to make it more uh gender-friendly, and the other one was in the 10th point, we added we said we want land, bread, clothing, justice, peace, and we added and people's community control of modern technology. That was 1972. What a powerful, what a powerful thing, and what a visionary Huey P. Newton was, because he understood that the future, we had moved essentially almost at that time from the industrial age to the tech age. And what did that mean exactly? We weren't particularly sure, but we found out today, or we find out as as these tech companies evolve and make billions of dollars, uh, that we're not sure about how this all happened. Um, but um we know now that uh technological advancement, life goes forward, not backward. There's never going to be a time when we are going to stop AI, stop tech, or anything else. The question is people's community control of technology. And that's what we're looking at now. Not only today, end of September, we have Donald Trump, you know, uh chief racist in charge, uh, and capitalist and greedy man and uh warmonger saying that we don't have to police these companies that produce data centers to collect our information and put it into a data banks and so forth. They don't need to be policed, they can self-police. This is what Trump said. He actually used the words I will never stifle the growth of a technology that will be bigger than the Industrial Revolution. Now, Trump understood, but we are way behind understanding. We gotta we have a sense that something's wrong, but we don't know what to do about it, and we don't know what exactly is wrong. We like a lot of this stuff. I know I do. I like the fact that there's information available so fast and so easily, but this isn't just about information, this is about um control of technology. Control is the important thing, and this really goes back to the history of the United States because all of these big companies that were involved in the Trump announcement that they could self-police and we didn't need government regulations, uh, they had an accord. They had, like I said, they had an accord, and that included, let me look at Anthropic and Google, Meta, OpenAI, uh, NVIDIA, and of course, Elon Musk, the so-called richest man or and person, which really is man, in the world with his SpaceX program and everything else that Elon Musk has his hand in. So these are the people, this small group of people, some people say oligarch, but this is what we call capitalist at its capitalism at its best. So we have evolved as a United States of America. When I say we, I really mean this country has from an agrarian economy for 250 years, which we need to talk about in a minute, to an industrially based economy and to now a tech-based economy, all through the exploitation of a large group of people in the interest of a few people who, as Trump said, this shouldn't even be called AI, artificial intelligence, should be called superior intelligence because it's superior people running it. Now we've heard superior in exchange, but that could be supremacy. And we know Elon Musk is a hardcore white southern racist, uh South African racist white supremacist, if there ever was one. And yet he is the so-called richest man in the world. So we just need to take a look at what they are doing now, which we don't really know. But one thing everybody has a sense of is they're afraid they're gonna lose their jobs. So I think to myself, what job is it that you have that you're afraid of losing? Now, this is mostly white-collar people sitting in little bureaucracies of the government and of corporate America. Because if you're down there working in a McDonald's for nothing, or you are uh working in a uh chicken processing plant, you're not gonna probably lose your job. And if you did, is this what you wanted for your life was to pull a raw chicken off of a chicken and put it into a bowl or something so somebody could cook it. I mean, let's talk about what is your job that you are worried about losing. But let's talk about our human participation in this whole technological world. The big thing that is happening now is the collection of data in data centers. And what is the collection of data? It is everything we know, but it's we human beings who know this stuff. It's not the machine that knows it. We feed the machine, regurgitates what we put in. Period. I don't care how they want to cut it up. The machine is not some rogue entity anymore. Then the hydrogen bomb was a rogue entity when this country and this country alone is the first and last country to drop a nuclear bomb on a whole country or on anybody, which was, of course, at Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan, which we should be all hanging our head in shame. But most people like to say, well, let's just let it go past. It's old, it's the war, blah, blah. But the point is control. So what control do we have over this collection of data? None because we don't have the programming, we don't understand. It's not enough to code. They got toys out now for kids coding, coding toys. Right now, you go on Amazon and buy a coding toy for a four or five-year-old child. So it tells us that coding has now been outdone, we can say, by other processes. But the bottom line is the collection of data. Data collection is like oil was, it's like steel was in the Industrial Revolution. That's how powerful it is. What I know, we say knowledge is power. What I know, and I know more than you do, but I because I have the collective knowledge of all humanity that I can pull together, but it takes a lot of energy to process all this data and make it available so quickly all over the world. And I have to have some machinery to do that. So all of these tech companies have created data centers. The problem with the data center is it has some impact on the environment and on our lives, but nobody wants to either admit what that might be or acknowledge that it might be detrimental. So that's one of the big issues, the data center. But the bigger issue, in my opinion, is that we remain out of control of our lives and that the next big wave of economic power is now in the hands yet again of a small group of white men throwing somebody like uh the head of NVIDIA for the sake of color, if you like. Bottom line is the white man has a small group of oligarchs, of rich thieves mostly. I mean, here's Mark Zuckerberg. Let's talk about Mark Zuckerberg. Now, Mark Zuckerberg is a little ugly man who was always unugly, who was trying to get a girlfriend when he was at Harvard, but he got rejected so many times. He talked to a friend of his who is an actual computer programmer or coder and said, it would be great if I could just ask these girls out kind of anonymously, but I wouldn't get rejected like in the lunchroom or in the classroom or on the campus somewhere. I just put myself out there, and maybe if I throw myself out to 35 girls, one of them will want me. That's that's what basically started. Uh Facebook, yeah. Yeah, Facebook. And all you Negroes out there that love Facebook and tell us about your cousin's birthday party, and we ain't even care about are you doing lip syncing or some ridiculous AI-generated song? I don't even want to talk about how stupid it all is because it's very stupid. But we love social media, and it's all being run by Mark, little Mark Zuckerberg. Well, boy, has he grown up? And then we have this big time, big, big, uh, big white racist Elon Musk, and then we have all the others. These few people are in control of the economy that is the driving force of the entire United States of America, which is the imperial force in the world. Yes, the Chinese are holding on, hanging in there, collectively doing what they do. But the United States is making weapons, doing everything it can do to control, to hold on to its superior position as the empire of the world, the first empire ever. Roman Empire wasn't anything compared to this. In control. Now, how do we fit into all of this, we black people? Let's just go back into the question of what our relationship is to the United States when we got here. We did not come here crossing the border trying to figure out how to get in and make a better life for ourselves. This is the stupid shit that really makes me angry. This is not your country, Negro. You lost your country when they captured you, took you across the burning sands from wherever you came on the continent of Africa, dragged you up to the shores of Ghana, to the coast of Ghana and the coast of Benin, or whatever it was then called, and put you somewhere, but and got you onto a ship, the English. Everybody started making money off of Africans. And we, many of our people, the Dao May in particular, were selling us to the white European as uh for guns and for sugar or something, whatever we were selling for, salt. It's disgraceful that piece of the history, and we need to look into it. But so be it, those of us who were landed in the United States, what is now the United States, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1619. How did we get here? Wait, we came on a ship called the White Lion. Now you know you have to say something about that. Not the white lion. Not the white lion. The white lion. Wow. That's how they think of themselves today. They the white lion. So this English, these English kidnapping uh rogue-ass adventurers called pirates, they have stolen, jumped on a Portuguese ship, killed the people on the Portuguese ship, and stole their slaves. Wait, that's not a country story. The thief, you stole the slaves, you knew he had the slaves. He stole the slaves, blah blah. You arrive in a place ultimately called Jamestown, Virginia, by the English, and you begin to use these slaves for something, but you're not sure because you're too stupid to know how to plant things and anything. So you stole all that information from the native people who were part of what was called the Pohatan Confederacy, over 30 tribes, headed by Chief Pohatan, the father of Pocahontas. Now, why is this important? Because you killed all the Pohatan. You stole their land and you killed them with the gun. Because in combat you weren't going to win. And you didn't win. So you had to go get the guns. That's how America was won. White lion, guns, stealing the land, and then stealing some people to work the land. Now that's the essence of it. This is what Trump doesn't want, the Smithsonian. Who cares? We don't have our own museums anyway. So we're begging them to tell our little piece of history, like it's important to the American history. So here we are developing tobacco in Virginia, and then eventually the whole slave trade becomes a machine that's unbelievable. Ships are built just to bring slaves in. Got to a place you had different types of ships with the tight pack, so you could put people in like sardines on the bottom and the second and third level. Some of them died. Well, that was your merchandise. We have insurance companies that grew up to insure your product, which was your slave, so forth and so on. Working the cotton, working cotton field. Well, cotton came later. All of this, stripped of our name, stripped of our land, stripped of our history, stripped of our language, stripped of our song, stripped of our culture, stripped of our sense of humanity, of any sense of humanity, identified as property. And this grew up, what, 250 years as human beings, not just I love when they say enslaved human beings, as though that makes it more palatable, as slaves to arbitrary ass white men? You have a guy like Andrew Johnson who becomes the president after Lincoln was killed, who never ever went to school, and was effectively illiterate.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

He became the president of the United States. That's the only qualification you need was being a white man. And what did Andrew Johnson do as a matter of side fact? When the Civil War was over and the North, as it were, had won, Andrew Johnson had been the governor of Tennessee, looked out and saw that General Sherman had handed out these little 40-acre uh little pieces of paper to tell every one of these former slaves that they could now get a 40-acre plot somewhere along coastal United States, North Carolina to South Carolina to Georgia to Florida, 30 miles in. He said, I know damn well you niggas don't think you're gonna move on them good white men's property. I don't care what Sherman did, it's over by Christmas, or we could we're coming in hard with the army. That's the last time we heard of any program to give black folks anything at all. And then what happens is we're re-enslaved, as Douglas Blackman says in his fabulous book called The Reenslavement of Black Americans, which everyone should read. Re-enslaved by doing what? Passing laws that say black people have to work or do certain things or else they violate the law. Vagrancy codes, it was called the Black Codes. And that what was the price for the vagrant? You have to pay a price. So let's say you pay a $7 fine, you don't have $7. It's 1867. What are you gonna do? Well, you're gonna have to work that off. And we start with little coal mines where you're gonna work there for two months to work off your fine. It goes on and on. And the PH system became so big, and it went all the way into the 1930s from 1860 something. Meanwhile, getting lynched, meanwhile, can't go to school, meanwhile, ain't got no housing, so forth and so on. So we remained under the boot and the foot of these races, these superior uh people, these uh white supremacists. And then we get to the place where we have a little bit of a movement that is organized in the late 50s and the 60s, but you had, of course, Booker T. Washington trying to start something at Tuskegee where we'd be uh self-determining. You had Marcus Garvin with the United Negro Improvement Association talking about self-determination, talking about owning, partnering with our African brothers and sisters around the world. And then you had Elijah Muhammad developing a do-for-self mindset with the Nation of Islam. And then you had what was called the civil rights movement, which nobody ever called it that until afterward. I believe white people probably came up with that name. But we weren't looking for, quote, civil rights rights under the law, because the law wasn't our favor. That's why we couldn't vote. So we fought for the vote and we fought to desegregate all of America's social and political and economic institutions. We did that. And ultimately we passed the 1964, we well, let me say the government passed the 1964 civil rights bill, which gave us the right to use the same toilets as white people, among other things.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

And we passed, or the United States passed, the uh voting rights act of 1965, and we could now vote theoretically. And that, of course, has been lately uh dismantled. So that's where we were by 65, and really we haven't moved from that point to this. Dr. King points out, as I always say, and I may have been redundant, I don't care. If you've heard it before, then hear it again. 1967, where do we go from here? He said, I look at America, I see the blacks have half of what is good and double of what is bad. And I look at today, and while Elon Musk stands side by side with the United States president, we don't even know how to comment on that. It's so ridiculous. Where are we? We still don't have housing. We're still begging for a place to live. Rental or ownership. I love when people say we need more home ownership. Okay, figure it out. Who's running the banks? You ain't you don't have enough money to buy one for cash, you haven't built one, we don't have housing. We still have the highest, the worst health outcomes in America. A high infant mortality rate. How is that possible in 2026? We have the lowest educational achievement levels. Why? Of course, I'm not going to talk about high incarceration, all the other bad things. And we still suffer police brutality. Now that's how low our lives are. And we are, of course, on the highest, if not the highest, poverty rate. Running neck and neck with the Native Americans who are so poor and pathetic. It's unbelievable, except they have land, if you want to say that. I don't want to compare our versions of oppression because it's not comparable. The Native people were our friends. Anybody singing about the Buffalo soldier can kiss my ass, including Bob Marley on that one. I love Bob Marley, but I'm not gonna listen to that. So we still have all of the same conditions, and yet we put Negroes in office, and we've done all these other things. We have bled for every little step of the way, taken two steps backward for every step forward. Black Panther Party came. We worked hard, we instituted programs that still are in place in many ways. We did everything that we were gonna do or could do. And here we are today, black people living at the bottom of life. While Donald Trump stands before us with a bunch of other new class of white men saying, we don't need policing. We niggas do, of course. We don't need policing, we can sell police the same way we've been doing. When we said slavery was legal, it was legal. We don't have to have nobody telling us about that. When we said it was illegal for a slave to try to run away, we meant that. And we meant the penalty was death and death on the spot. When we said black people couldn't have a job, couldn't live here, all the other stuff we said. From post the so-called post-slave period to now, we meant that we're in control of this shit. You're not in control, Negro. You're lucky to get a job. And yet you have your little representatives. We don't want to talk about some of them. I'm gonna get to them. You know, I always like I think of Tim Scott, the ultimate elected Negro. I digress. But that does talk about the common, common now, the common incidences of ongoing police brutality and murder of black people that we said in our seventh pro point of our platform program, the Black Panther Party, had to come to an end. And we fought like hell to make an example, not to end it, but to make an example. But now we have a bunch of weak ass people walking around here now, they're not ready to take up arms, much less even protest.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Wow. So police brutality. So, Elaine, in the last episode, we briefly went over the raid that happened at the Black Panther apartments, but there's been new development. You get you guys have filed a lawsuit at this point. Do you want to update on that? Update us on that, please.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Well, you know, um, I mean, it's not just an update. Uh, there was a raid by 20 fucking pigs from the San Francisco Police Department. So we let's update us on what happened. Who came to our building? Where's my poster pig? So, where's my poster pee?

SPEAKER_03 23:49

We're gonna get the poster pig. We're gonna be in there.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Okay, you have a poster pig in here? So here you got 20. I would say all white, but there was at least two boot-licking Negroes who happened to be twins, if you can believe that. Came to our beautiful Black Panther apartments door and wanted to serve a search warrant, or wanted to say they wanted to search the building, did not have a piece of paper, came rushing up to the door, plain clothes, jumping out of unmarked cars, carrying on like a gang uh or of terrorists, or you know, these uh white boys that usually kill up everybody in the uh school or the church or somewhere. Damn, definitely look like. Hopefully, you've seen the picture by now.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

And they came holding these battering rams and stuff. We wanted, well, first they told our guy outside that they wanted him to open the door. He said, Well, I can't open the door, you have a search warrant. Uh it was like, nigga, we don't have to show you anything. They slapped him around and uh pushed him up against the wall, handcuffed him, and then they came to the door, which is all glass, because we built a beautiful building, looks like a luxury building for people with low income. So until our income is equal to Elon Musk, we got to call ourselves low income. And for those people that don't understand it, almost all of us are low income. So don't get excited because somebody gave you a credit card and a rental car. Right. You're still on the plantation. You just may have moved up a little bit. Massa letting you come to the back door to get some chicken from time to time. Right. Got mammy in there while she's suckling their babies, so forth. I don't want to go down that path too far. But anyway, the point is uh they came to our door in an assault mode and demanded entry. And when we said we don't we need to see a uh a search warrant, which wouldn't necessarily get you in, depending on what the search warrant said, they smashed through the door. Bam, bam, bam, like crazy man. Let's smash through the doors. And by this time, our resident manager, Misty Cross. And I make note that Misty is around 5'3, weighing in about 110 max. And she went up, they walked in the door, walked over the glass, they created a mess they created with all of these. We have a dominant number of single black mothers and their young children in the building. And they usually come in home from school very close to the time they smashed down and smashed through our door, front door. And they went to the elevator and Misty tried to stop them. They pushed her physically out of the elevator, these big white men. But Misty being Misty pushed her way back in and rode up to this apartment on the fifth floor with them to make sure that our tenant had been given some minimal advance warning that these people were coming looking crazy to his door. After that, they ransacked this apartment and they walked out with two items, a pair of shoes and a jacket, and called themselves having gotten stolen, uh found stolen or potential stolen goods from a robbery in San Francisco that took place in March, and this was the end of May. Needless to say, we had to file a lawsuit, but it does it's not that easy to file a lawsuit. We had to do this preliminary filing of a complaint, you know, just something to hold you up. Or as Shakespeare said, the laws delay. The laws delay. But we finally, our lawyer, Adante Pointer, uh, who is with a law firm called Pointer and Buelna, Lawyers for the People, that is the name of his law firm. And he finally had the timing and all the paperwork filed to finally file a lawsuit against the San Francisco PD and the city and county of San Francisco for everything from assault, destruction of property, violation of Fourth Amendment rights, you name it, we sued them. And so recently, uh this month of September 2026, we had a press conference that was just absolutely stunning because we were able to show the world all of the egregious activity of police against this building. Now, what did we do for all of this to happen? Hey, we don't know, but we don't know what we did when we were at the Black Panther Party serving breakfast to children because they assaulted those breakfasts too. Or as Jhoover said back in the day when we had something called the COINTELPRO or counterintelligence program of the FBI, remembering this is the same FBI that killed Dr. King. Oh my God, they've already been exonerated. They have not. They have not been exonerated. Uh, they are part of the whole government conspiracy, and no matter what you want to think, what is the reason? Why would you kill Dr. King? Same reason you knocked down the doors of a beautiful, affordable housing project called the Black Panther. You don't want to give anybody any further ideas about freedom, about self-determination. You want to make sure your ass is scared enough not to mess around with this. Now, our lawsuit said we're not scared, we're not going anywhere. And at our uh press conference, we had four testimonies from residents. And one young woman, Brianna Johnson, so beautiful, talked about how she and her three young children, the oldest being a 10-year-old boy, have lived out of a car, lived in a shelter, lived in a house for five years suffering uh domestic violence, moved, had to separate her children at some points to just to keep them safe somewhere, because she didn't have any place for all of them with her, and finally finding this home at the Black Panther apartments and at a rate that she could afford, and her children had a decent place to sleep and live and so forth, and how grateful she was. And here come the police, and we're in a so-called high crime area, high crime based on police fake statistics. We're in that area, and the only people who have ever broken one window in our building have been the police. We don't have graffiti in our building because our people love us, they love what we're doing at that building, but the police didn't. Then uh we we had other testimonies from other residents, and we had a state assemblywoman, Mia Banta, and we had a congresswoman, Latifa Simons, that sent a statement, and we had one one one city councilwoman representing Chinatown and other areas, uh Charlene Wong. Now, where were the Negroes from the City Council of Oakland? I don't know. They never said a mumbling word about our the egregiousness, the outrage of the assault on our beautiful building and and the intimidation of our innocent residents and management. Nobody in that building was charged or being sought for any crime.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

Not even the council person for the district in which the building resides.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Not even her, and we do want to mention her by name, Carol Fife. And I want to get into talking a little bit about that in a minute, Africa. And I'm glad you brought that up. But what we did see was that we are gonna fight, and that the people in our building are standing strong, knowing that they have ownership and management. I represent ownership and management that is there to serve their interests as tenants in our building, that we provide decent, clean, and safe housing. They pay their low rent, and we have other programs, and we all have an understanding of that being developed as a positive community. At the ground floor level, we have space and we are getting ready to build out our first business, which is called it's a neighborhood market. We're a food desert as called Huey's Market. We're gonna have our fitness center, Panther Power Fitness Center. We're gonna have a restaurant, a Taste of Power restaurant. We're gonna have an urban farm uh called uh Healthy Hood Farms, and we're gonna have a tech center called Tech for the People. Wow. We're gonna keep on establishing the uh not only concretely but also uh through a modeling of these uh businesses to show they will be cooperatively owned, but we will set them up. We open in the World Enterprises by Nonprofit, we will establish these businesses, hold on to them till they're profitable, finance them, and so that eventually they become independent and create a model for people everywhere around the country and elsewhere where there's poverty and lack of power, that you can be powerful, you're just gonna have to seize power by the throat and stop whining about what these races are doing, which they are doing more than we could than we imagine, because they don't need policing, as we just said. Only we need policing. But speaking of Carol Fife, I do want to mention her in particular because this is West Oakland district. West Oakland, home of the Panther, West Oakland, where black folks came rising up from Louisiana and Alabama and so forth, coming to work on the docks of Oakland, heeding the call of Henry Kaiser as it shot out across the south, telling black folks that we this ain't Dixie, you can get a job here. People walk, grab trains, trains, buses, whatever they could get on, especially black men to work on those docks and eventually bring their families to Oakland. And West Oakland is where the near where the seaport is, where they would end up working. And as a result, built that community up, built it up from nothing. Of course, they were segregated, but didn't matter. They had jobs, they had money, and they were building up their own community, small, beautiful houses with gardens in the front, bringing their products, bringing their tomatoes and okra from Louisiana and so forth, coming up to uh develop uh barbecue joints. And we had a black movie theater and a black bank and a whole bunch of beautiful restaurants and beautiful places. The place was so beautiful. Slim Jenkins Supper Club, uh what is her name? I'll think of Esther's Orbit Room. All these businesses on 7th Street, right where our building is, destroyed by government policies, as they like to call it. Bulldozed 400 and some homes right across the street for 12 square blocks of black people had built those homes from nothing, bulldozed them under eminent domain and put in this stupid main post office that nobody can figure out why it's there anyway, because it you never see any activity over there. Bulldozed over a thousand homes to create the uh rapid transit train that makes all this noise overhead and destroyed the sound and the and the hope of 7th Street when it was called Harlem West. But we're there to resurrect that. Now, this woman represents this historic and important district, and she came into office pretending, pretending that she was a black woman out to advocate for the interests of black people, pretending that she was a founder of something called Moms for Housing, where women sat in this empty house till they ultimately were driven out by police with a tank coming down the street and all that. And where was she doing a TV show at the time? Pretending that she was a friend in some kind of vicarious way of the Black Panther Party because she was related, or not related, but was working with uh Fred Hampton Jr., who lives in Chicago. And he was never a member of the party because he wasn't even born when his father was brutally assassinated by FBI-directed police. She walked into office with that reputation and connected to defund the police and connected to something else called uh anti-police terror organization. Now you would think in Oakland, representing West Oakland, this would be the baddest bitch we ever saw. Right. You would think that. What has she done? Well, first of all, she, like so many of the other blacks, the few other blacks on the city council, never said a mumbling word. Don't you know Negroes like that in your own area?

SPEAKER_03 38:34

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

Never said a mumbling word about a police attack on apartment building, an occupied apartment building, under some theory that they were looking for stolen goods. This is why you're being an anti-police terror person. But this ain't the beginning because you have never done anything to develop any housing in West Oakland. But you have done everything to be in collusion with these white boys that are bringing in data centers. Having a press conference only recently with a billionaire named Colin Barrett, who's got a downtown building in which he has a data center, and here you are standing up actually trying to explain that his data center is not going to be like the data centers that you think about.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

As if she would know the difference. That's one. And even more recently, there were some two black women living in these tiny homes that were mowed down in this district, and she signed off on the mowing down, talking about she didn't realize that they still live there. This is Carol Pike representing our people in West Oakland, stealing the history and the legacy of our people in West Oakland, and the buildup and the history of the that the Black Panther Party developed, the legacy that we placed there, the history, the sacredness of that history. She is betraying. And the sad part is she's probably not even getting any money for it because, you know, uh someone told me that in the Bible, one of the reasons Moses got so mad at some of the Jews, because they'd be performing for Pharaoh and wasn't even getting paid. They just want to be near Pharaoh. These Negro don't even, they he just won't be near Colin Baring, near all these big-time developers that are moving in, and then wants to be worse, worse, near the Jeff Bezos data center in her district under a project named Prometheus. What is Jeff Bezos doing in West Oakland? Is he out to help the people that have been robbed of their homes? Is he out to help black people? When did this happen? He built a massive data center right in the middle of West Oakland. Carol Feist says never heard of it. But so did the mayor, who is a black woman. So did a whole lot of other people. And nobody's commented on that. Here's Jeff Bezos, the third or second, you know, you never know white boys, richest man in the world. And you didn't know what was happening on a property that's massive, taking up, I don't know, two or three square blocks now. Jeff Bezos' company that built the building the data center called is called the Prometheus Project. How much money is the Prometheus Project worth now? You don't know. Well, there was a valuation that was published by one of the newspapers, a reliable newspaper like the San Francisco Chronicle, that this newly developed company, Prometheus, from 2020, developed in 2025, today has a valuation of drum roll $41 billion. Sitting in Westover. Now you know Jeff Bezos, not Brandon. What did Carol Fly have to say about that? Zero. Too busy standing up there with Colin Berry and his relatively small and putting women out their little tiny homes. This is a kind of shameful, shameful behavior on the part of our people that we have to criticize, and we have to criticize severely and profoundly. We cannot let this slide. It's like Ken Houston, who's a representative in East Oakland. They like to say deep East Oakland, like that's gonna be a special place, like deep East Oakland. That's like the real hood. No, yeah, it's what it is. And Ken Houston ain't got nothing to do with all that except he likes to call himself the son of Oakland. And he's another one that rode in on being, you know, an advocate for the people, being a little bit to the left, all of that. But all of a sudden, he's become a police operator, an agent for the police and their ideas. He has recently had a video with him and the new police chief, Beer, B-E-E-R-E, Chief Beer. And here's Ken saying, I want to thank you, Chief Beer. Getting these guns, and they have a big display, like the FBI likes to display guns for some criminal. They have a big display of all these guns. All these guns were in our community, and we need to get rid of these guns. And we want to thank Chief Beer for helping us to rid our community of these guns. That's one. Two. He's now advocating, pushing for someone for a piece of legislation because the council's not passing it that says to diminish down to almost nothing the power of the so-called police oversight commission in Oakland that was invented and created for the very purpose of making sure the police didn't continue the pattern that they had of doing down low, underground, illegal behavior, which came out of a case specifically called the Writers, R-I-D-E-R-S writers case, for which the which the Oakland PD has been under a monitor for 23 years. And he wants to diminish the power of oversight. And he called himself son of Oakland. That's how I say that stuff in. And by the way, that little 23-year monitor was finally uh lifted the other day. And these Negroes feel like, oh, now we're good to go. We can really allow them to do anything. And we know that the OPD was a partner with San Francisco PD in the assault on our building. How do we know that? Because they issued a joint statement stating that they had their rights, they were within their rights, and that OPD was on standby to support them if they needed it, blah, blah, blah. This is what we got working in Oakland. This is replicated elsewhere. You got a whole bunch of fake Negroes running around here. The whole congressional black hawkers need to go to hell. Because what have they done? They don't even protest Trump. They let Hakeem Jeffries, we've already talked about him. But he bear, you can always talk about him any day because he's so stubborn. I'm not talking about Hakim, walking around the name of Hakim and being a being a Zion, a supporter of the Zionist state of Israel. Let's talk about Hakeem and that, but I'm not gonna do that. I do have to do a shout out though, for I'm gonna just say this. Somebody gave me this phrase. I'm not quoting it. I'm quoting it, so I don't want to be, I don't want to take credit, but also don't want to be responsible for it. But somebody told me that Shaquille O'Neal, after they saw that he was uh an honorary, he he became an honorary FBI agent, went through the program now, went to the graduation, and was given a certificate by that little cash patel sleeves ball head of the FBI as an honorary FBI agent. Now, I just don't know. He's up there now with Clarence Thomas. Tim Scott, I don't know which one is worse, except Clarence Thomas is in a bigger position to mess up more for our people. But so is Tim Scott, but he's confined to his little hometown or home state. But here is Shaquille O'Neill, and so somebody said he was looked like a big giant jumping jigaboo. Standing up there next to Little Cash Patel thanking him for making him an honorary FBI, a very FBI that not only assassinated King, but that targeted the entire Black Panther Party as the Lord the Black Panther Party well, really the Nation of Islam before, but then later that kind of petered out, but it doesn't matter. And the nation of Islam were the targets of destruction or destruction by the FBI for so long was pathetic. This is the same FBI that put Marcus Garvey out of the United States and closed down the United Negro uh Improvement Association. This is the same FBI and this big, what did I say, giant jumping jigaboo sat up there and accepted? And not only did he accept it, he had volunteered to go through the course so he could be an honorary FBI agent. What kind of Negro is that? Where have we gone? What is our agenda? Why are we talking about self-policing? Where are we in the AI universe? Nowhere. I'm trying to change that with a little teeny model on the corner of Seventh and Campbell, also known as Elaine Brown Way. I'm trying to change that, but that's one little teeny effort. And I'm, you know, as Willie Brown said, the line is getting shorter. I'm 83 years old. There's only so much I can do right now. I'm looking to young people. The other day I said I didn't trust anybody under over 12. You know, these people don't want you can't trust them, man. And and speaking of that, you know, we have a legacy, the Black Panther Party. We shed blood to build this memory and this legacy. And what is our legacy? Our legacy is fighting for freedom. Our legacy is fighting for black liberation. Our legacy is black liberation through revolutionary change. Our legacy is uh, you know, we're gonna live for the people because and we're gonna die for the people. Our legacy is to serve the people, body and soul. Our legacy is to create revolutionary change inside of the belly of the beast, which is the United States of America. And that legacy will stand no matter what kind of bastardization program there might be, because it's written in stone. And somewhere, somebody young, somebody under 12 now, will take up the bloodstained banner because it has not been taken up so far. I put my faith in these youngsters, and then I look out and see these faith, faith Black Panthers calling themselves having a goddamn Black Panther 60th anniversary. Frederica Newton, slaughter, that's her real name. Who are you in the first place? You know you were never in the Black Panther Party. You know you were never in the Black Panther Party, but you want to claim the name. She went and trademarked the name the Black Panther Party. Now, what is a trademark? Now, what is a trademark, I thought? It's not like a copyright. Copyright is where you have original material that you invented. Anybody can trademark anything for the purpose of selling merchandise. That's why I call it a trademark. This is not an intellectual property thing per se, because you don't have to have any intellectual relationship to the name. As long as it's available, you can use it. Who would have ever trademarked the name of the Black Panther Party that was in the Black Panther Party? Except somebody who wanted to sell some merchandise and sell the name of her dead alleged ex-husband, which was Howie P. Newton. Even though in her book that she wrote with David Huey called Huey Spirit of the Panther, she states clearly that Huey was getting on her nerves and toward the end of his life, I make note, and that he was getting on her nerves so much she just wanted him to die. She gave him enough volume that he should have died, but Huey just wouldn't have died. This is Frederica Newton, who's now selling the name of the Black Panther Party. Wow. Heading up the 60th anniversary. What a joke. Frederica Newton also has a trademark on uh the words all power to the people. Can you imagine that and finally on the symbol of the Panther that's used by the Black Panther Party, which ironically is really, and and these things are all up for grabs. So she's trademarked that symbol as if she could sue somebody for merchandising. Well, she's merchandising. Okay. And so she's exploiting, extorting, all of that. That Panther, just so you know, has a history that is really odd because it was originally the Panther symbol of the football team of a uh of a school called Clark School, Clark, Clark College, which would ultimately in Atlanta, which would ultimately be called Clark Atlanta, was a combination of the two schools. But their football saint uh mascot was the Black Panther. And so during the time of the SNCC organization, which I'm so sad to see how many people don't even know what SNCC is, student nonviolent, which became a student national coordinating committee. And this group of young blacks was working out throughout the South to get people to register to vote and to protect them if they tried to vote when they were being killed or beat up or denied voting when they tried to vote. And the head of that organization, after there was one wave, you had the John Lewis period, and you had a lot of integration. A lot of white women floated in. I don't have to tell you, as a friend of mine said, I'm gonna be all over you like a white woman on an NBA player. Well, you should have seen the white women that were after these SNC brothers. But they all seemed to be fine, you know. Anyway, emerging from that period was the new leadership, which was Stokely Carmichael, who became Kwame Touray, and Rap Brown, who's Rap Brown. And the two of them were working out of Alabama, organizing blacks around voting, one in Green County, that was rap, and the other in Lowndes County, Alabama. And Alabama is just one of the most dogged racist states in the country. It's hard to believe because you think Mississippi is, but Alabama's giving it a good run for this money. Hard to say. Anyway. And they worked out of those two areas organizing. And so because Alabama required, if they wanted to form a political party and have a symbol, they ultimately made their symbol the Black Panther, which they got from Clark College mascot in Atlanta. And so they became for that period of time the Black Panther political party in Alabama. And uh, of course, they were up against George Wallace, but they were able to get a lot of people to at least vote. And in Green County, it is the only county in Alabama where when Lurlene Wallace ran, which was George Wallace's uh cancer-ridden wife that he forced to uh run because he couldn't run anymore, she only lost one county, and that was Green County, and Rat Brown always liked to take credit for that, which he should. But in any case, that's where the Panther came from. And Huey Newton asked one of them if we, the Black Panther Party for self-defense, could use that symbol. And he was given permission because they were dying out by 1965 when the Voting Rights Act was passed, and the Black Panther Party was in the in Oakland was being formed in 1966. So that symbolism should be just known. And this woman would like to claim this for herself so she can sell merchandise with that Panther symbol on it. Now, what's disgraceful about it isn't just the exploitation and all of that, that's all pretty bad. But you have the blood of the party, the blood of our heroes, the efforts that we made over year in and year out, nobody did. People dying in prison, people dying young, young, young people. We were young, we were a young organization. And you who had never really done one single thing, daughter of a real estate agent growing up in Berkeley. And you now, because at the very end of his difficult life, Huey Newton ended up with you and many other women, but he ended up with you, and there's some claim that you that you have at one point you didn't want it because you tried to kill him, as you said in your own book. But you now claim his history, claim the genius of Huey P. Newton, claim the the innovation, the commitment to our people, to talking about people's community control of technology, and you've done nothing, nothing at all, even remotely connected to anything Huey ever stood for or said or did. And now you want to make money from it. So I'm kind of test off with these people, these 60th anniversary people. And uh I hope the message goes out before they have their little program. And for whatever is worth, I won't be there. Because here's the thing you know, Fred Hampton said you can kill a revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

And it's important for me. I have these heroes, as you can see on my walls. Uh, you got John Huggins, who's my personal hero if I can say that. And you got apprentice Bunchie Carter, the founder of the Southern California chapter, first chapter of the party that ever existed, the one where I joined the party. Uh slain in their prime, 23, 26 years old, so forth. George Jackson, Fred Hampton, Jonathan Jackson. And you want to exploit that. But even you, all you exploitative Negroes, you certainly can't do more than Donald Trump and his superior people are doing and have done. But what we have to do is root out these bad, these poison apples that fall from the tree. We had to root them out.

SPEAKER_03 58:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

But I want to just read something, Africa, if you don't mind. It's just a piece of a homage, a piece of a of a speech that uh was made some time ago by Fito Castro in 1997 when the remains of the great Cuban revolutionary leader and hero, Comandante Che Guevara. When the remains of Che Guevara were returned to Cuba from Bolivia after all those years, and he was praising his comrade, his brother, his heroic revolutionary. I'm gonna just read this because it goes to what these people are bastardizing and betraying. And Castro says of Che, a combatant may die, but not their ideas. Those who wanted to kill him, meaning Che, to make him disappear, were not able to understand that he would leave an indelible full footprint in history, and that his luminous prophets' gaze would transform him into a symbol for all the earth's poor in their millions upon millions. And so the Black Panther Party stands for that. And I'm one of the few members still standing. Don't know why, at 83 years old, I'm still here, and so many of my comrades have gone, either fallen during in battle or fallen since then. Shout out to my comrade, Darren Fergus, been in prison now 20-some years, to Romaine Chip Fitzgerald, who died after 51 years in a joint in the joint, and all those other unknown comrades who gave everything to create a legacy, and that legacy will not be killed by bastardization of it, by assault on our building or anything else, because it will live long after all of that, and that's what I that's what I'm hoping for.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

Wow. Wow. What a great episode. Um, and yeah, and and as we're as we are uh looking at the 60 60th year of the Black Panther Party, it's an honor to know you, and it's an honor to just really sit at the feet of the wisdom that you provide to us. And wow, until next time, people, all power to the people.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:09

And we're not gonna worry about the trademark on that. All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

That was an way that was nice.